Full text of Charly Boy's controversial gay and Illuminati interview as granted to Danfo Express which is now on the newsstands.
I SOLD MY SOUL TO THE DEVIL IN EXCHANGE FOR FAME, POWER & MONEY
You are seen as a man of the people, always fighting for the rights of the masses, including okada riders that people don’t really like to identify with. Why do you go to that extent?
Well, it is not just okada riders, I turn to anybody that has a problem. It is just about encouraging, motivating and inspiring people. I speak in schools, churches, higher institutions to motivate young people because those are the ones that need the message most importantly and of course, the disenfranchised Nigerians, the poor, the needy, so for me, it is a feeling of usefulness. I think I am useful when I do these things because it is not about how much one really accumulates, it is about how much one affects one’s environment, so these are the values that guide me, so if I am running around with the okada people helping them with one thing or the other, it is a natural thing for me to do. I am keeping myself busy, I am trying to give some hope to my environment because we all know how it is in these days of unemployment and lack of articulate responsibility from the government to the people which is leading to great poverty in the land. So everything has become a rat race and when I’m helpful in my community, then I feel good.
Are you using your name and personality to challenge the government to make the country better for the masses?
Well, like you know, for the past 45 – 50 years, rather than things getting better, they are getting worse. The main monster that everybody is aware of is corruption. Civil liberty and different humanitarian groups have been advocating and advicing on how to make things better, but whether the people in power want to be human and do something to alleviate the suffering of the masses, well that’s a question for another day. But what we can do ourselves is send a message to the young people to stop looking for jobs, there are no jobs, what can we do ourselves, what is that little thing that God has given to us as a gift or as a career? How do we exploit it? How in the face of all these frustration and hopelessness? How do we galvanize ourselves, encourage ourselves so at least we’ll have hope that tomorrow things will be better, you know. One man can’t do it, but I’m not sure that I’m the only person who is doing their own in their own corner. It’s just unfortunate that the government so far has not been responsible towards the people.
Is music paying off for you?
Music is a hobby for me. It’s a hobby, it’s not a career.
So what other businesses are you doing to keep your body and soul together?
Forget about what business I’m into, it’s how I take care of myself, how I live my life, how I moderate my life that matters. I’m a professional journalist and a communicator. That’s what I studied and that’s the business I’m in, the business of communication.
In other words, the business of communication is another business you do?
Yeah, the business of communication. I said I’m not a musician.
Well you will have to convince us all there.
No. I believe a musician is somebody who can read, write, you know, interpret music. I can’t do that. I’m just an entertainer.
Do you still do anything for the okada riders?
Yes oh. I will forever keep doing things for them.
The reason I asked that question is that nowadays the okada is being banned here and there, we are not hearing your voice like those days?
Except you are asking me to go against the government, they had already admitted to the government and they agreed that there were certain places, areas they should stay away from, certain areas they should ply right? They’ve agreed to that, so, like last week, a bunch of them came to meet me, the ones at Ikeja because those areas that are laid out for them to ply, police are still bothering them and I had to go and talk to the commissioner of police who is new in Lagos.
In what area would you say you have impacted on the poor?
I don’t know. My own is to do what I can do. I don’t keep records of the things that I do, except you talk to other people who in one way or the other are touched by things that I do. That feeling of usefulness, I can’t be talking about myself and telling you I’ve done this and done that, but I’m always willing to give my time.
Do you think you know what the poor really want? The reason why I ask that question is that there are people who think that what you do is actually to your own advantage?
I am not in the business of wondering what people are thinking or what they are saying. It’s not my business, that is why I’m who I am, it’s not my bloody business, I work out of the conviction of my heart, what I feel is good, what I think I should engage in and I don’t bother myself with what people are saying.
Ardent viewers of the Nigerian Idol are talking a lot about the way you shake your rings like incantation?
I am just giving timid, myopic, bored, frustrated Nigerians entertainment value. That’s all.
But it makes you seem fetish?
Yeah. Because you are a fetish person, then you can think like that because of where you stand. I’ll tell you the story of the three blind men, right? Do you know the story of the three blind men?
No.
I didn’t think so. Okay, the three blind men dwarfs, they went on the road and they met an elephant. So, one was touching the elephant’s tail and said oh, this is a long snake and this animal is a snake and the other one touched the elephant’s foot and said ah, this looks like a vicious crocodile. The other one touched the tusks and said this is like a cow. They were all right, isn’t it? So people will forever keep talking about what they don’t understand and what they can’t figure out, they keep labelling it, giving it a name, but they don’t have the total picture. So I’m on that platform in Nigerian Idol to encourage young people that the only way they can get out of their issues, out of their challenges is to, you know, exploit that thing God has given them, that talent to their own benefit. So any other thing that you see there, whether I’m jiggling my rings or I’m trying to forecast who wins is all show business.
What does your skull symbolize?
For me, it’s just like when you go on a highway as a biker, you see a skull and cross bones and what does that mean, danger ahead, so as a biker the skull for us signifies how you must protect yourself when you are on the road and make sure that anytime you go you are protected. Whatever you want to attach to it, that’s your own business.
But some people say that you are promoting evil.
Why? Why do you think I chose that Charly Boy image. Why? I chose the Charly Boy image which I’ve been nurturing for the past 36 years because I realized that my people were timid, backward, myopic, fake and I wanted to challenge that mindset and the fact that everybody is taking a right turn doesn’t necessarily make it right. I can take a left turn. The fact that I’m different, that I don’t look like you doesn’t make me a bad person because I might be a better person than you. The fact that you are going to church every Sunday doesn’t mean that you are going to heaven. It’s what’s in my heart that God sees, that counts, and if we now decide to judge something by what we see, then that’s so off the mark because, what about the content, what about the message, what about what’s coming? So that’s why we are living in the kind of country we are living in because everything is made up of very fake, rubbish people. I usually tell people that the people who are stealing your money, the people who have impoverished your country, how do they look? Don’t they look well dressed? Suit, tie, agbada? Have you seen anybody dressed like me there chopping money? No, you can’t. So, different people can attach whatever they like to me. As long as you are convinced in what you are doing and you know yourself and you believe in yourself, you shouldn’t be bothered. That’s why I said I cannot be in this business to be thinking of what people are talking about.
Give us one new thing, something that people don’t know about you.
People only know what I want them to know. So they can’t know every thing about me.
But give us one.
There are so many layers about my person. Like do you know for instance that my gay personality name is Linda? You know something people say about entertainers? They always say they can’t keep a home, okay? That they are always jumping from one relationship to another, they are the greatest womanizers. Most of them are drug addicts and so how do you explain that I’ve been married to the same person for 36 years, how do you explain how I’ve run my family for the past forty-something years, how do you explain all of that, so what I’m saying is that it is what I put out. I’ve outlived all my colleagues that we started out together. Where are they? Do you still remember them? But I ain’t going nowhere, even after another fifty years. It’s not about how much money I can make, it’s not about how many cars I can drive, It’s about how I’ve affected and influenced my environment and it terms to be something of passion to me and something I derive joy in doing.
Now let me ask you this. When you kissed Denrele, was it Charly Boy that kissed him or was it Linda?
Maybe it’s the two of them.
It was two-in-one?
Yeah, yeah, they took turns.
So you are gay?
Do you remember the story of the three blind men and the elephant I told you? Go there and get your answer. You, Jatto, lived in America for a long time. Did you ever see anybody stoning gays and lesbians when they walk on the road? It’s my story, nothing wey anybody fit do me. You fit tell them sef say I be the head of Illuminati for Nigeria and I be Ogboni. If I knew about Illuminati years ago, I for don build estates here and there. Nigerians too dey fear.
When should we expect another album from you? Your last one was very good.
I don’t know. Like I told you, it’s a hobby. So when I feel like it. When I see young people like the Joe Blue that I’m going to go watch today. Mercy is another fantastic singer. It will be nice to work with one of them. I also learn things from young people because they are the ones that are current so I like to attach myself to young people.
How do your children take your image? How do they see it?
I don’t bring Charly Boy into the house.
We’ve almost forgotten to talk about your grandchildren.
What do you want to know about them? My first grandchild is now sixteen.
‘AS HEAD OF ILLUMINATI, I AM BIGGER THAN OGBONI’
The hustle to become successful in any profession anywhere in the world is not an easy one. To become successful, some people have had to do untoward things like fraud, armed crime, etc. However, there is another more sinister set of successful people.
This set is made up of those who use spiritual means to achieve their insatiable appetite for success. They kill their fellow human beings to use for rituals to make themselves successful. They bath in blood in the darkest hours of night and sleep in coffins or sleep with mad women to ensure the gods accept their request for riches.
Even as fingers have been pointed at many popular successful Nigerians that their success comes from spiritual methods and not their own intellectual capacities, Nigerian entertainers too are not left out of this nasty and ugly trend.
King of the pack of Nigerian celebrities who uses evil to remain successful is the Area Fada himself, Charly Boy. As a matter of fact, CB doesn’t hide his association with evil. He actually flaunts it anywhere he is.
He didn’t acquire his spiritual success from just any herbalist but the Devil himself. He deals with the Devil directly for anything he wants hence his staggering success. Mind you, CB can’t even sing or anything yet he has made and continues to make multimillions from entertainment.
He has fallen so deep into the trap of the Devil that he can’t extricate himself again so he doesn’t care anymore who knows or not that he’s a Devil worshipper. At his mansion in Abuja, the sign that welcomes you says ‘Welcome to Hell.’
Presently, he goes about always with a skull that people think is just part of his showbiz personality when it is actually the symbol of his loyalty to the Devil that made him the success he is.
He has become very arrogant with his close relationship with the devil that he does what he like anyhow he like. As the devils advocate, he belongs to many evil cults and he is the head of the dreaded Illuminati in Nigeria. Though he is also an Ogboni, he says he is bigger than the Ogbonis as the head of Nigeria’s Illuminati.
Addendum (by Jatto)
After the interview, myself and Roni who conducted the interview went back three days later to collect all the pictures that we needed from Charly Boy for our publication. I was amazed at the amount of complete women’s makeup kits that I saw him using. Right in front of my eyes, Charly Boy was making up like a woman. He had eye lashes, lip stick, powder, finger nails and many more makeup kits that were actually meant for women.
I knew that I was really dealing with Linda, Charly Boy’s gay personality. That was when I decided in my mind that this is not just a publicity stunt, this must be real. Throughout the time that I hosted my TV show, Jatto Live on Galaxy Television years ago, and I did an interview also for Charly Boy on that my show, he had not kissed Denrele, he hadn’t added any human skull to his brand so I did not ask him about Illuminati or gay then.
I therefore believe him wholeheartedly that he is also Linda and Linda is a woman’s name, not a man’s name.
